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		<title>By: tech gadget</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/government-web-sites-must-be-wcag-aa-compliant/#comment-76468</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well I was just searching on Google for some videos and songs of my favorite singers and just came across your blog, generally I just visit blogs and retrieve my required information but this time the useful information that you posted in this post compelled me to reply here and appreciate your good work. I just bookmarked your blog :).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I was just searching on Google for some videos and songs of my favorite singers and just came across your blog, generally I just visit blogs and retrieve my required information but this time the useful information that you posted in this post compelled me to reply here and appreciate your good work. I just bookmarked your blog :).</p>
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		<title>By: Designing for Disability Seminar &#171; UK Web Focus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Designing for Disability Seminar &#171; UK Web Focus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Adam
   Many thanks for your comments. My apologies for citing the wrong document - I have updated the blog post.  I hope this is now correct.
   I welcome the government&#039;s effort to enhance the accessibility of its Web sites. However I am concerned that this will be interpretted as a need to ensure that automated checking tools don&#039;t give negative results, and any effort an manual cheking will be marginalised.
   I would also question the extent to which we can rely on WCAG 1.0 as a definitie set of guidelines. nHaving said that I would agree with Julie Howell when she says &quot;WCAG .. remains the crucial foundation of every website&quot;.  However the way I interpete that is that organisations should seek to implement WCAG, &lt;strong&gt;unless it gets in the way of providing accessible Web sites&lt;/strong&gt; i.e. WXCAG conformance ius useful in many cases, but is not a necessary condition (we nboth agree that it is no sufficient).
   However I welcome your encouragement that intertsted parties should continue this debate.
   Having said that, I find it unfortunate that the forum you provide is closed - and I signed up on Friday but have still not been authorised to access the forum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adam<br />
   Many thanks for your comments. My apologies for citing the wrong document &#8211; I have updated the blog post.  I hope this is now correct.<br />
   I welcome the government&#8217;s effort to enhance the accessibility of its Web sites. However I am concerned that this will be interpretted as a need to ensure that automated checking tools don&#8217;t give negative results, and any effort an manual cheking will be marginalised.<br />
   I would also question the extent to which we can rely on WCAG 1.0 as a definitie set of guidelines. nHaving said that I would agree with Julie Howell when she says &#8220;WCAG .. remains the crucial foundation of every website&#8221;.  However the way I interpete that is that organisations should seek to implement WCAG, <strong>unless it gets in the way of providing accessible Web sites</strong> i.e. WXCAG conformance ius useful in many cases, but is not a necessary condition (we nboth agree that it is no sufficient).<br />
   However I welcome your encouragement that intertsted parties should continue this debate.<br />
   Having said that, I find it unfortunate that the forum you provide is closed &#8211; and I signed up on Friday but have still not been authorised to access the forum.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bailin</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/government-web-sites-must-be-wcag-aa-compliant/#comment-67640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Bailin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Brian, I work for the Central Office of Information (COI) and was involved in the development of the guidelines. I was also the government representative at the Accessibility Summit 2 in November 2006.

It&#039;s important not to confuse the version of the guidelines for public consultation (1.0, October 2007) with the approved version (1.1, June 2008). I realise that this has already been pointed out but the link to the PDF version and the quote of paragraphs one and two still refer to the older version. When linking to the guidance, please use the URL &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coi.gov.uk/guidance.php?page=129&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.coi.gov.uk/guidance.php?page=129&lt;/a&gt; This is the landing page which describes the guidance and provides links to the Word, PDF and HTML versions.

Thanks for the link to Julie Howell&#039;s article, it&#039;s an interesting piece. However, I read it slightly differently to you. Julie begins by saying that WCAG is &#039;absolutely appropriate and remains the crucial foundation of every website&#039;. No-one is suggesting that AA-conformance is sufficient for high quality websites. Since the &lt;a href=&quot;http://hcid.soi.city.ac.uk/research/Drc.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2004 research by the Disability Rights Commission&lt;/a&gt;, the prevailing opinion has been that WCAG conformance is &lt;em&gt;necessary but not sufficient&lt;/em&gt; for high levels of accessibility. 

The COI guidance is more closely linked to PAS 78. PAS 78 works alongside WCAG conformance and is an approach based on accessibility as a process. This process places greater emphasis on user involvement and developing an accessibility policy. That&#039;s why, in addition to the requirements for AA-conformance, the COI guidance also requires the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coi.gov.uk/guidance.php?page=132#section3a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;development of an accessibility policy&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coi.gov.uk/guidance.php?page=134&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;use of methods for technical and usable accessibility testing&lt;/a&gt;. Therefore, AA-conformance is not sufficient to comply with the government guidelines. Neither is passing sets of automated tests as in the league table you have linked to.

I want to stress that these guidelines will develop over time. We have said that we will consider WCAG 2.0 when it&#039;s finalised. Also, I&#039;m involved in BS 8878. To keep up with these developments and to ensure the guidance remains relevant, we have set up an &lt;a href=&quot;http://communities.idea.gov.uk/c/676995/home.do&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;accessibility community on Digital People&lt;/a&gt;. I encourage those interested in delivering inclusive public sector websites to join this community. There are some interesting discussions taking place and your input would be more than welcome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Brian, I work for the Central Office of Information (COI) and was involved in the development of the guidelines. I was also the government representative at the Accessibility Summit 2 in November 2006.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important not to confuse the version of the guidelines for public consultation (1.0, October 2007) with the approved version (1.1, June 2008). I realise that this has already been pointed out but the link to the PDF version and the quote of paragraphs one and two still refer to the older version. When linking to the guidance, please use the URL <a href="http://www.coi.gov.uk/guidance.php?page=129" rel="nofollow">http://www.coi.gov.uk/guidance.php?page=129</a> This is the landing page which describes the guidance and provides links to the Word, PDF and HTML versions.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to Julie Howell&#8217;s article, it&#8217;s an interesting piece. However, I read it slightly differently to you. Julie begins by saying that WCAG is &#8216;absolutely appropriate and remains the crucial foundation of every website&#8217;. No-one is suggesting that AA-conformance is sufficient for high quality websites. Since the <a href="http://hcid.soi.city.ac.uk/research/Drc.html" rel="nofollow">2004 research by the Disability Rights Commission</a>, the prevailing opinion has been that WCAG conformance is <em>necessary but not sufficient</em> for high levels of accessibility. </p>
<p>The COI guidance is more closely linked to PAS 78. PAS 78 works alongside WCAG conformance and is an approach based on accessibility as a process. This process places greater emphasis on user involvement and developing an accessibility policy. That&#8217;s why, in addition to the requirements for AA-conformance, the COI guidance also requires the <a href="http://www.coi.gov.uk/guidance.php?page=132#section3a" rel="nofollow">development of an accessibility policy</a> and the <a href="http://www.coi.gov.uk/guidance.php?page=134" rel="nofollow">use of methods for technical and usable accessibility testing</a>. Therefore, AA-conformance is not sufficient to comply with the government guidelines. Neither is passing sets of automated tests as in the league table you have linked to.</p>
<p>I want to stress that these guidelines will develop over time. We have said that we will consider WCAG 2.0 when it&#8217;s finalised. Also, I&#8217;m involved in BS 8878. To keep up with these developments and to ensure the guidance remains relevant, we have set up an <a href="http://communities.idea.gov.uk/c/676995/home.do" rel="nofollow">accessibility community on Digital People</a>. I encourage those interested in delivering inclusive public sector websites to join this community. There are some interesting discussions taking place and your input would be more than welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/government-web-sites-must-be-wcag-aa-compliant/#comment-67215</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Code Gorilla - don&#039;t be too complacent, the document states that &quot;&lt;em&gt;Websites owned by central government departments must be Double-A conformant by December 2009. This includes websites due to converge on Directgov or BusinessLink, unless convergence is scheduled before this date.&lt;/em&gt;&quot; but then goes on to say that &quot;&lt;em&gt;Websites owned by central government executive agencies and non-departmental public bodies must conform by March 2011&lt;/em&gt;.&quot;  Do you work for a non-departmental public body (NDPB)?  Wikipedia &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-departmental_public_body&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;provides a definition of NDPBs&lt;/a&gt; and states that &quot;&lt;em&gt;In March 2006 there were 882 public bodies classified by the UK government&lt;/em&gt;&quot;.   Further information is given on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.civilservice.gov.uk/about/public/bodies.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a page on the Civilservice.gov.uk&lt;/a&gt; Web site - and Frankie Roberto may be concerned to hear that the list includes the Museums, Libraries and Archives Council, Museum of London, Museum of Science and Industry in Manchester, National Endowment for Science, Technology and the Arts, National Gallery National Heritage Memorial Fund, National Lottery Commission, National Maritime Museum, National Museum of Science and Industry, National Museums Liverpool, the National Portrait Gallery and the Natural History Museum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Code Gorilla &#8211; don&#8217;t be too complacent, the document states that &#8220;<em>Websites owned by central government departments must be Double-A conformant by December 2009. This includes websites due to converge on Directgov or BusinessLink, unless convergence is scheduled before this date.</em>&#8221; but then goes on to say that &#8220;<em>Websites owned by central government executive agencies and non-departmental public bodies must conform by March 2011</em>.&#8221;  Do you work for a non-departmental public body (NDPB)?  Wikipedia <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-departmental_public_body" rel="nofollow">provides a definition of NDPBs</a> and states that &#8220;<em>In March 2006 there were 882 public bodies classified by the UK government</em>&#8220;.   Further information is given on <a href="http://www.civilservice.gov.uk/about/public/bodies.asp" rel="nofollow">a page on the Civilservice.gov.uk</a> Web site &#8211; and Frankie Roberto may be concerned to hear that the list includes the Museums, Libraries and Archives Council, Museum of London, Museum of Science and Industry in Manchester, National Endowment for Science, Technology and the Arts, National Gallery National Heritage Memorial Fund, National Lottery Commission, National Maritime Museum, National Museum of Science and Industry, National Museums Liverpool, the National Portrait Gallery and the Natural History Museum.</p>
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		<title>By: Code Gorilla</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Code Gorilla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank goodness they say &quot;&lt;em&gt;government&lt;/em&gt;&quot; rather than &quot;&lt;em&gt;public sector&lt;/em&gt;&quot;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness they say &#8220;<em>government</em>&#8221; rather than &#8220;<em>public sector</em>&#8220;!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/government-web-sites-must-be-wcag-aa-compliant/#comment-67193</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Simon - thanks for your comments.  It seems I had confused the initial proposal with the agreed action - and the date by which compliance is needed is now December 2009 and not 2008.  I have updated my post - and  also added the link to the HTML version of the guidelines which I must have missed when I wrote the post.

I should also add that a post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.headstar.com/eablive/?p=191&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Accessibility Deadlines Set For UK Government Websites&lt;/a&gt; published on 19thJune 2008 on the E-Access Blog describes how the warning that non-compliant Web sites will be shut down has been toned down from the initial proposal - it now seems that such Web sites &#039;&lt;em&gt;may be at risk of being shut down.&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon &#8211; thanks for your comments.  It seems I had confused the initial proposal with the agreed action &#8211; and the date by which compliance is needed is now December 2009 and not 2008.  I have updated my post &#8211; and  also added the link to the HTML version of the guidelines which I must have missed when I wrote the post.</p>
<p>I should also add that a post on <a href="http://www.headstar.com/eablive/?p=191" rel="nofollow">Accessibility Deadlines Set For UK Government Websites</a> published on 19thJune 2008 on the E-Access Blog describes how the warning that non-compliant Web sites will be shut down has been toned down from the initial proposal &#8211; it now seems that such Web sites &#8216;<em>may be at risk of being shut down.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Simon Bains</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/government-web-sites-must-be-wcag-aa-compliant/#comment-67192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Bains]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian,

I see that there does appear to be a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coi.gov.uk/guidance.php?page=129&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fully updated version of the document&lt;/a&gt; including an HTML version.

Your quote appears to come from the older version of the document which gives end 2008 as the deadline. The new version has the correct dates. I got a bit confused by your reference to 2009 following a quote referring to 2008! That said, thanks for bringing this to my attention; I responded to the consultation, but no one in government has passed this news on to me (yet).

Simon Bains, Digital Library Manager, National Library of Scotland]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>I see that there does appear to be a <a href="http://www.coi.gov.uk/guidance.php?page=129" rel="nofollow">fully updated version of the document</a> including an HTML version.</p>
<p>Your quote appears to come from the older version of the document which gives end 2008 as the deadline. The new version has the correct dates. I got a bit confused by your reference to 2009 following a quote referring to 2008! That said, thanks for bringing this to my attention; I responded to the consultation, but no one in government has passed this news on to me (yet).</p>
<p>Simon Bains, Digital Library Manager, National Library of Scotland</p>
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		<title>By: Frankie Roberto</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frankie Roberto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yikes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes!</p>
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