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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Leave Instagram (or Facebook, Google Drive, &#8230;) Until You&#8217;ve Considered the Implications</title>
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		<title>By: agrodutmandal</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2013/01/17/dont-leave-instagram-or-facebook-google-drive-until-youve-considered-the-implications/#comment-130790</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

I won’t be closing mine, I like the community I’ve found there.. unless everyone else leaves and then its no fun, then I might consider stopping.
I hashtag so people can see them, so if it was used anywhere, I wouldn’t mind, but I think it is important for everyone to understand the terms and conditions for anything they sign up to, and fully agree to them!

Regards
Agrodut Mandal
&lt;a / rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Academic Assignment&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I won’t be closing mine, I like the community I’ve found there.. unless everyone else leaves and then its no fun, then I might consider stopping.<br />
I hashtag so people can see them, so if it was used anywhere, I wouldn’t mind, but I think it is important for everyone to understand the terms and conditions for anything they sign up to, and fully agree to them!</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Agrodut Mandal<br />
<a / rel="nofollow">Academic Assignment</a></p>
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		<title>By: Julian Prior</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julian Prior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DK&#039;s comment that is!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DK&#8217;s comment that is!</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Prior</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2013/01/17/dont-leave-instagram-or-facebook-google-drive-until-youve-considered-the-implications/#comment-130763</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julian Prior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seconded ;-)]]></description>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Leave Instagram (or Facebook, Google Drive, &#8230;) Until You&#8217;ve Considered the Implications &#124; Digital rights &#124; Scoop.it</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] New Year: An Opportunity to Delete Social Media Accounts! A few days ago I received the following email from Instagram: As we announced in December, we have updated our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy.&#160; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] New Year: An Opportunity to Delete Social Media Accounts! A few days ago I received the following email from Instagram: As we announced in December, we have updated our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy.&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A commenter known as PeteJ in some contexts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A commenter known as PeteJ in some contexts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone who has made the informed decision to delete several social media accounts over the last couple of years, I have so many points I&#039;d like to make that I don&#039;t know where to start!

But for now I&#039;ll just say that your post here prompted me to quickly login to Instagram yesterday and delete that account. Until I got an email from them recently, I didn&#039;t even realise I had an account. AFAIK, I never used it: I&#039;m not much of a photographer, I have mixed feelings about the explosion of mobile photo-sharing, and it didn&#039;t offer any function of value to me, and that recent rights spat certainly did nothing to encourage me.  In the event that you catch me at some point in the future muttering ruefully into my beer, &quot;Aww, man, I WISH I had an Instagram account&quot;, you are free to say &quot;I told you so!&quot;, but I have to say it seems very unlikely.

A few weeks ago I also deleted an old, little-used Flickr account too - I should add that my experience of Flickr as a service was mostly a positive one. (I occasionally wonder whether the relatively low rate of feature change contributed to my positive opinion!) But I haven&#039;t made active use of it for a long time (four years since I uploaded anything, IIRC), and it had become just another thing requiring low-level maintenance. And there is labour required simply in maintaining these accounts, even if it is just at the level of updating settings as features change, or occasionally responding to messages, or blocking spammers.

I admit I chuckled at your footnote argument that one must surely hasten to sign up for new services in order to &quot;reserve&quot; one&#039;s preferred userid! Oh crumbs... I understand the userid-as-cross-service-personal-brand thing, but surely the proliferation of services made that a Sisyphean task several years ago?
 
P.S. I discovered your post when it appeared in my RSS Reader yesterday. Old school :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has made the informed decision to delete several social media accounts over the last couple of years, I have so many points I&#8217;d like to make that I don&#8217;t know where to start!</p>
<p>But for now I&#8217;ll just say that your post here prompted me to quickly login to Instagram yesterday and delete that account. Until I got an email from them recently, I didn&#8217;t even realise I had an account. AFAIK, I never used it: I&#8217;m not much of a photographer, I have mixed feelings about the explosion of mobile photo-sharing, and it didn&#8217;t offer any function of value to me, and that recent rights spat certainly did nothing to encourage me.  In the event that you catch me at some point in the future muttering ruefully into my beer, &#8220;Aww, man, I WISH I had an Instagram account&#8221;, you are free to say &#8220;I told you so!&#8221;, but I have to say it seems very unlikely.</p>
<p>A few weeks ago I also deleted an old, little-used Flickr account too &#8211; I should add that my experience of Flickr as a service was mostly a positive one. (I occasionally wonder whether the relatively low rate of feature change contributed to my positive opinion!) But I haven&#8217;t made active use of it for a long time (four years since I uploaded anything, IIRC), and it had become just another thing requiring low-level maintenance. And there is labour required simply in maintaining these accounts, even if it is just at the level of updating settings as features change, or occasionally responding to messages, or blocking spammers.</p>
<p>I admit I chuckled at your footnote argument that one must surely hasten to sign up for new services in order to &#8220;reserve&#8221; one&#8217;s preferred userid! Oh crumbs&#8230; I understand the userid-as-cross-service-personal-brand thing, but surely the proliferation of services made that a Sisyphean task several years ago?</p>
<p>P.S. I discovered your post when it appeared in my RSS Reader yesterday. Old school :)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Amber 

Thanks for the comment.

In a talk on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slideshare.net/lisbk/managing-your-digital-profile&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Managing Your Digital Profile&lt;/a&gt; I suggested that you can&#039;t ignore Google even if you didn&#039;t want to use Google+ as a social net6work (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slideshare.net/lisbk/managing-your-digital-profile/36&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see slide 36&lt;/a&gt;). In a comment above Steve Ellwood alerted me to a post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chrisbrogan.com/social-backplane/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Plus is a Social Backplane Service&lt;/a&gt; which describes ho hew:

&quot;&lt;em&gt;give[s] you what you need to start figuring out the business applications of this platform as it stands right now. That’d be a great leg up on where this all goes next.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

and concludes wrt the numbers of G+:

&quot;&lt;em&gt;Don’t reply with “no one’s there.” You don’t buy a fridge and find it full of food. Millions and millions of people are there. You’re just not doing the work. If 500 million have an account and reports estimate about 250 million people are fairly darned active, that’s more people than Twitter. You’re just not following them yet.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

The question of information overload on social networks is one I didn&#039;t address in the post. On Twitter, as you, this can be addressed by a combination of tools (lists, filtering, etc.) but more importantly by personal approaches to use of the tool: it&#039;s a stream and you don&#039;t have to read every tweet or respond to everyone that mentions you and you don&#039;t need to use Twitter in bed or on holiday if you don&#039;t want to.

But the question of email overload is a newer one, following Twitter&#039;s posting of email summaries and LinkedIn sending email notifications of activities in your LinkedIn communities including details of your endorsements. However these alerts can be disabled as described in a LinkedIn FAQ for the question &lt;a href=&quot;http://help.linkedin.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/67&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How do I add, stop, or change the frequency of email notifications?&lt;/a&gt; :-)

Which isn&#039;t to say that your concerns about the &quot;digital clutter&quot; you encounter aren&#039;t a real concern. My point is that deleting one&#039;s account means deleting one&#039;s network as well as the content and rebuilding on&#039;es network may be time-consuming than using tools (or approaches) to help with filtering content.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amber </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>In a talk on <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/lisbk/managing-your-digital-profile" rel="nofollow">Managing Your Digital Profile</a> I suggested that you can&#8217;t ignore Google even if you didn&#8217;t want to use Google+ as a social net6work (<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/lisbk/managing-your-digital-profile/36" rel="nofollow">see slide 36</a>). In a comment above Steve Ellwood alerted me to a post on <a href="http://www.chrisbrogan.com/social-backplane/" rel="nofollow">Google Plus is a Social Backplane Service</a> which describes ho hew:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>give[s] you what you need to start figuring out the business applications of this platform as it stands right now. That’d be a great leg up on where this all goes next.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>and concludes wrt the numbers of G+:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Don’t reply with “no one’s there.” You don’t buy a fridge and find it full of food. Millions and millions of people are there. You’re just not doing the work. If 500 million have an account and reports estimate about 250 million people are fairly darned active, that’s more people than Twitter. You’re just not following them yet.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>The question of information overload on social networks is one I didn&#8217;t address in the post. On Twitter, as you, this can be addressed by a combination of tools (lists, filtering, etc.) but more importantly by personal approaches to use of the tool: it&#8217;s a stream and you don&#8217;t have to read every tweet or respond to everyone that mentions you and you don&#8217;t need to use Twitter in bed or on holiday if you don&#8217;t want to.</p>
<p>But the question of email overload is a newer one, following Twitter&#8217;s posting of email summaries and LinkedIn sending email notifications of activities in your LinkedIn communities including details of your endorsements. However these alerts can be disabled as described in a LinkedIn FAQ for the question <a href="http://help.linkedin.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/67" rel="nofollow">How do I add, stop, or change the frequency of email notifications?</a> :-)</p>
<p>Which isn&#8217;t to say that your concerns about the &#8220;digital clutter&#8221; you encounter aren&#8217;t a real concern. My point is that deleting one&#8217;s account means deleting one&#8217;s network as well as the content and rebuilding on&#8217;es network may be time-consuming than using tools (or approaches) to help with filtering content.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Oppenheim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Oppenheim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, you are right that the same applies on many other services - and more fool those who sign up to such services without thinking through the consequences.  The thing is that Instagram changed its T &amp; Cs to make it possible for it to use photos in this way, whereas previously its T&amp;Cs did not allow such use.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you are right that the same applies on many other services &#8211; and more fool those who sign up to such services without thinking through the consequences.  The thing is that Instagram changed its T &amp; Cs to make it possible for it to use photos in this way, whereas previously its T&amp;Cs did not allow such use.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the clarification.When you say &quot;&lt;em&gt;The revised terms and conditions permit, for example, holiday snaps taken by someone and posted on the service to be used in adverts for a travel company/hotel, whether or not the photographer and/or people being photographed might object or not&lt;/em&gt;&quot; the same is surely true of photos uploaded to services such as Flickr or posted on blogs for which a Creative Commons licence has been granted - with the exception that use of a Creative Commons licence allows &lt;strong&gt;anyone&lt;/strong&gt; to reuse the content, whereas content posted on Instagram could only be used by Instagram. From my perspective assignment of Creative Commons licences and acceptance of terms and conditions provided by services such as Instagram should be done from an informed perspective. So I welcome the discussion of T&amp;C, but don&#039;t agree with blanket statements such as &quot;&lt;em&gt;If you’re not paying for something, you’re not the customer; you’re the product&lt;/em&gt;&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification.When you say &#8220;<em>The revised terms and conditions permit, for example, holiday snaps taken by someone and posted on the service to be used in adverts for a travel company/hotel, whether or not the photographer and/or people being photographed might object or not</em>&#8221; the same is surely true of photos uploaded to services such as Flickr or posted on blogs for which a Creative Commons licence has been granted &#8211; with the exception that use of a Creative Commons licence allows <strong>anyone</strong> to reuse the content, whereas content posted on Instagram could only be used by Instagram. From my perspective assignment of Creative Commons licences and acceptance of terms and conditions provided by services such as Instagram should be done from an informed perspective. So I welcome the discussion of T&amp;C, but don&#8217;t agree with blanket statements such as &#8220;<em>If you’re not paying for something, you’re not the customer; you’re the product</em>&#8220;.</p>
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		<title>By: ambrouk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ambrouk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this Brian, timely as always. After tweeting  was leaving g+ I actually had to rejoin BECAUSE the browser on my android tablet (not even a chrome browser) keeps checking me in with g+, very annoying. I haven&#039;t investigated it fully, but I haven&#039;t given up any other google functionality. With g+ It&#039;s just all the prompts and updates I don&#039;t want, I don&#039;t want to feel like there is yet another network to follow. As you know I left rebelmouse too, perhaps that was shortsighted. They were certainly responsive on twitter! 
I&#039;m a great believer in social networks when they have the right mix of functionality and people and focus they really work for me. But its increasingly the case that my email inbox is like a load of gossips trying to catch my attention &quot;did you hear what he said? look where she&#039;s been! what do you think about them?. I know that I value the responses I get back from my networks, so I don&#039;t dismiss this as just digital clutter. Its not even just information. I actually feel a *social* pressure. It triggers my brain into maintaining these social touches, and that takes effort I don&#039;t always have. So I start to resent the service for making me feel guilty for not responding, I feel like its nagging me.
In a way, the more people are passive participants in networks without that true social pull, the less the power of the network. I&#039;d rather be an AT266637 in a meaningful network than an amberthomas in a shallow one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this Brian, timely as always. After tweeting  was leaving g+ I actually had to rejoin BECAUSE the browser on my android tablet (not even a chrome browser) keeps checking me in with g+, very annoying. I haven&#8217;t investigated it fully, but I haven&#8217;t given up any other google functionality. With g+ It&#8217;s just all the prompts and updates I don&#8217;t want, I don&#8217;t want to feel like there is yet another network to follow. As you know I left rebelmouse too, perhaps that was shortsighted. They were certainly responsive on twitter!<br />
I&#8217;m a great believer in social networks when they have the right mix of functionality and people and focus they really work for me. But its increasingly the case that my email inbox is like a load of gossips trying to catch my attention &#8220;did you hear what he said? look where she&#8217;s been! what do you think about them?. I know that I value the responses I get back from my networks, so I don&#8217;t dismiss this as just digital clutter. Its not even just information. I actually feel a *social* pressure. It triggers my brain into maintaining these social touches, and that takes effort I don&#8217;t always have. So I start to resent the service for making me feel guilty for not responding, I feel like its nagging me.<br />
In a way, the more people are passive participants in networks without that true social pull, the less the power of the network. I&#8217;d rather be an AT266637 in a meaningful network than an amberthomas in a shallow one.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Oppenheim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Oppenheim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t use Instagram, so it&#039;s not an issue for me.  The revised terms and conditions permit, for example, holiday snaps taken by someone and posted on the service to be used in adverts for a travel company/hotel, whether or not the photographer and/or people being photographed might object or not. Now not all photos posted on Instagram are flattering - indeed some may be seriously embarrassing.  Also, the photos could be used to advertise products or services that you disapprove of for any reason. Although Instagram in its statement said this sort of use was never its intention, the fact remains that the terms and conditions allow it to do this should it so wish in the future. That&#039;s why I fully understand why so many people no longer use the service.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t use Instagram, so it&#8217;s not an issue for me.  The revised terms and conditions permit, for example, holiday snaps taken by someone and posted on the service to be used in adverts for a travel company/hotel, whether or not the photographer and/or people being photographed might object or not. Now not all photos posted on Instagram are flattering &#8211; indeed some may be seriously embarrassing.  Also, the photos could be used to advertise products or services that you disapprove of for any reason. Although Instagram in its statement said this sort of use was never its intention, the fact remains that the terms and conditions allow it to do this should it so wish in the future. That&#8217;s why I fully understand why so many people no longer use the service.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment.

Which of the revised terms and conditions concerns you?  Is it:

&quot;&lt;em&gt;Some of the Service is supported by advertising revenue and may display advertisements and promotions, and you hereby agree that Instagram may place such advertising and promotions on the Service or on, about, or in conjunction with your Content. The manner, mode and extent of such advertising and promotions are subject to change without specific notice to you.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

I personally don&#039;t mind ads being served when people view content I publish on a free service. note that this is the cases with posts on the Wordpress.com blogs so if you object to this clause I assume you&#039;d argue that people should use the free version of WordPress.com? (If you subscribe to Wordpress.com adverts aren&#039;t displayed).

Ta

Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>Which of the revised terms and conditions concerns you?  Is it:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Some of the Service is supported by advertising revenue and may display advertisements and promotions, and you hereby agree that Instagram may place such advertising and promotions on the Service or on, about, or in conjunction with your Content. The manner, mode and extent of such advertising and promotions are subject to change without specific notice to you.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t mind ads being served when people view content I publish on a free service. note that this is the cases with posts on the WordPress.com blogs so if you object to this clause I assume you&#8217;d argue that people should use the free version of WordPress.com? (If you subscribe to WordPress.com adverts aren&#8217;t displayed).</p>
<p>Ta</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ellwood (@steveellwood)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Ellwood (@steveellwood)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks. It&#039;s a tad unfair for me to suggest I migrated to Flickr, I was there already :-). I do have concerns about the future, and I&#039;m looking to try and keep my asseets and thoughts in a variety of places. 

As I alluded, following  Tantek Çelik&#039;s idea, I&#039;m trying to produce content where I control/keep it - and when I don&#039;t, use tools like http://thinkupapp.com/ to capture it. 

I already use delicious in its latest guise to snatch links from Facebook and Twitter e.g. https://delicious.com/shaidorsai/from%20twitter for reference purposes. 

I tend to agree that the &quot;oooh you&#039;re the product&quot; screamers can get a bit tiresome. I guess I&#039;ll stop using the products when their utility is outweighed by their irritation.

In passing, did you see http://www.chrisbrogan.com/social-backplane/ ? G+ being sneaked into use across their other property?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. It&#8217;s a tad unfair for me to suggest I migrated to Flickr, I was there already :-). I do have concerns about the future, and I&#8217;m looking to try and keep my asseets and thoughts in a variety of places. </p>
<p>As I alluded, following  Tantek Çelik&#8217;s idea, I&#8217;m trying to produce content where I control/keep it &#8211; and when I don&#8217;t, use tools like <a href="http://thinkupapp.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thinkupapp.com/</a> to capture it. </p>
<p>I already use delicious in its latest guise to snatch links from Facebook and Twitter e.g. <a href="https://delicious.com/shaidorsai/from%20twitter" rel="nofollow">https://delicious.com/shaidorsai/from%20twitter</a> for reference purposes. </p>
<p>I tend to agree that the &#8220;oooh you&#8217;re the product&#8221; screamers can get a bit tiresome. I guess I&#8217;ll stop using the products when their utility is outweighed by their irritation.</p>
<p>In passing, did you see <a href="http://www.chrisbrogan.com/social-backplane/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chrisbrogan.com/social-backplane/</a> ? G+ being sneaked into use across their other property?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Oppenheim</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2013/01/17/dont-leave-instagram-or-facebook-google-drive-until-youve-considered-the-implications/#comment-130638</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Oppenheim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instagram&#039;s revised terms and conditions gives it permission to commercially exploit images submitted.  Its back tracking statement is incompatible with those terms and conditions.  In circumstances where a contract contradicts a public statement, Courts have to decide which takes priority, but my inclination is to assume the contract decides, not the public statement. So until the terms and conditions are satisfactorily revised, people are right not to want to use Instagram.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instagram&#8217;s revised terms and conditions gives it permission to commercially exploit images submitted.  Its back tracking statement is incompatible with those terms and conditions.  In circumstances where a contract contradicts a public statement, Courts have to decide which takes priority, but my inclination is to assume the contract decides, not the public statement. So until the terms and conditions are satisfactorily revised, people are right not to want to use Instagram.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2013/01/17/dont-leave-instagram-or-facebook-google-drive-until-youve-considered-the-implications/#comment-130616</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment, Steve. Your &lt;a href=&quot;http://steveellwood.com/2012/11/05/criticism-of-facebook-friends-goes-mainstream/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog post on this subject&lt;/a&gt; was interesting, too.

One question I would ask about your migration to Flickr is what would you do if the terms and conditions of Flickr changed or the service changed ownership. We saw how Yahoo were forced to sell delicious last year and since Yahoo&#039;s financial position does not appear too healthy, the sustainability of their service may be questionable.

Note I&#039;m basing my comments on &lt;a href=&quot;http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/12/yahoo-makes-its-second-major-upgrade-in-two-days-flickr-for-ios-overhauled-major-update-for-web/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a recent Techcrunch article&lt;/a&gt; in which the author commented:

&lt;cite&gt;For some of us, we’ve moved on to other photo hosting and sharing services, and companies like Facebook and Google have taken a major bite out of Flickr’s powerful photographic stronghold. I’ve personally let my Flickr Pro account lapse, because there just wasn’t enough value in continuing to go back to it. &lt;/cite&gt;

together with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.quantcast.com/flickr.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Quantcast display of US traffic to the site&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Steve. Your <a href="http://steveellwood.com/2012/11/05/criticism-of-facebook-friends-goes-mainstream/" rel="nofollow">blog post on this subject</a> was interesting, too.</p>
<p>One question I would ask about your migration to Flickr is what would you do if the terms and conditions of Flickr changed or the service changed ownership. We saw how Yahoo were forced to sell delicious last year and since Yahoo&#8217;s financial position does not appear too healthy, the sustainability of their service may be questionable.</p>
<p>Note I&#8217;m basing my comments on <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/12/yahoo-makes-its-second-major-upgrade-in-two-days-flickr-for-ios-overhauled-major-update-for-web/" rel="nofollow">a recent Techcrunch article</a> in which the author commented:</p>
<p><cite>For some of us, we’ve moved on to other photo hosting and sharing services, and companies like Facebook and Google have taken a major bite out of Flickr’s powerful photographic stronghold. I’ve personally let my Flickr Pro account lapse, because there just wasn’t enough value in continuing to go back to it. </cite></p>
<p>together with the <a href="http://www.quantcast.com/flickr.com" rel="nofollow">Quantcast display of US traffic to the site</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2013/01/17/dont-leave-instagram-or-facebook-google-drive-until-youve-considered-the-implications/#comment-130615</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was late joined Instagram and found that the ID briankelly had been taken. I&#039;ve added a note at the bottom of the post which points out that it can be useful to sign up to a service early in order to claim one&#039;s id.

I agree with you that, for me, not using Instagram in order to stop them from making money from one&#039;s photo isn&#039;t an issue. Ironically as there is a CC-BY licence for this blog, anyone is entitled to monetise the content of this blog!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was late joined Instagram and found that the ID briankelly had been taken. I&#8217;ve added a note at the bottom of the post which points out that it can be useful to sign up to a service early in order to claim one&#8217;s id.</p>
<p>I agree with you that, for me, not using Instagram in order to stop them from making money from one&#8217;s photo isn&#8217;t an issue. Ironically as there is a CC-BY licence for this blog, anyone is entitled to monetise the content of this blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2013/01/17/dont-leave-instagram-or-facebook-google-drive-until-youve-considered-the-implications/#comment-130614</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Kelly (UK Web Focus)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And if my parents had paid for my education that would have been ok?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if my parents had paid for my education that would have been ok?!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ellwood (@steveellwood)</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2013/01/17/dont-leave-instagram-or-facebook-google-drive-until-youve-considered-the-implications/#comment-130612</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Ellwood (@steveellwood)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Brian

I saw the furore, and decided the terms as they then were were unacceptable.
I deleted (all 6 of ) my images, stuck &#039;em back in Flickr.

I would have thought much harder if it was FB.
I tend to pick up profiles on most services, but really use few. Mostly Twitter/FB, with some politics on Tumblr...

I can&#039;t see me moving off FB - too many family/friends who wouldn&#039;t go to diaspora, for example.

Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian</p>
<p>I saw the furore, and decided the terms as they then were were unacceptable.<br />
I deleted (all 6 of ) my images, stuck &#8216;em back in Flickr.</p>
<p>I would have thought much harder if it was FB.<br />
I tend to pick up profiles on most services, but really use few. Mostly Twitter/FB, with some politics on Tumblr&#8230;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see me moving off FB &#8211; too many family/friends who wouldn&#8217;t go to diaspora, for example.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila MacNeill (@sheilmcn)</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2013/01/17/dont-leave-instagram-or-facebook-google-drive-until-youve-considered-the-implications/#comment-130611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheila MacNeill (@sheilmcn)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Brian

I had thought briefly about leaving Instagram, but then realised that it was only my own vanity that thought anyone/company might use a picture of mine and make a fortune, and the ease of sharing with pictures from was still pretty attractive. However it may have spurred my decision to finally sign up to blipfoto and do the picture a day challenge.  As for google+, facebook etc I&#039;m willing to stick with them just now - the advantages outweigh disadvantages just now and tbh I don&#039;t think any great loss to me or society if I couldn&#039;t access them.

Sheila]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian</p>
<p>I had thought briefly about leaving Instagram, but then realised that it was only my own vanity that thought anyone/company might use a picture of mine and make a fortune, and the ease of sharing with pictures from was still pretty attractive. However it may have spurred my decision to finally sign up to blipfoto and do the picture a day challenge.  As for google+, facebook etc I&#8217;m willing to stick with them just now &#8211; the advantages outweigh disadvantages just now and tbh I don&#8217;t think any great loss to me or society if I couldn&#8217;t access them.</p>
<p>Sheila</p>
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		<title>By: dkernohan</title>
		<link>http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2013/01/17/dont-leave-instagram-or-facebook-google-drive-until-youve-considered-the-implications/#comment-130609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dkernohan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I didn’t pay for my education as a child – does this mean that I’m simply a product of the capitalist system which will seek to exploit me as a worker and provide free health care so my productivity is maximised?&quot;

Yes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I didn’t pay for my education as a child – does this mean that I’m simply a product of the capitalist system which will seek to exploit me as a worker and provide free health care so my productivity is maximised?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
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